# nLab positive element

Positive elements

# Positive elements

## Idea

In classical mathematics, an element of a poset is positive if and only if it not a bottom element.

A more subtle definition is needed in constructive mathematics; analogously to how “nonempty sets” may need to be replaced by inhabited sets. In mathematics that is both constructive and predicative, positivity can be axiomatised but not defined.

## Definitions

Let $L$ be a preordered set, and let $x$ be an element of $L$.

###### Definition

(in classical mathematics, and in predicative mathematics with classical logic)

An element $x \in L$ is positive if it is not a bottom element, equivalently if there exists an element $y \in L$ such that $x \leq y$ is false: $\neg(x \leq \bigvee \empty)$.

###### Definition

(in classical mathematics, and in impredicative constructive mathematics)

An element $x \in L$ is positive if whenever $x$ is bounded above by a join of some subset $A$ of $L$, $A$ is inhabited: $\forall A\,; x \leq \bigvee A \;\Rightarrow\; \exists\, u \in A$.

###### Definition

(in predicative constructive mathematics)

A positivity predicate on $L$ is a predicate $\lozenge{x}$, pronounced “$x$ is positive”, such that

• If $x$ is bounded above by a join of a subset and $x$ is positive, then some element of that subset is positive: $\lozenge{x} \;\wedge\; x \leq \bigvee A \;\vdash\; \exists\, u \in A,\; \lozenge{u}$.

• If $x$ is bounded above by a join on the assumption that $x$ is positive, then $x$ really is so bounded: $\lozenge{x} \;\Rightarrow\; x \leq \bigvee A \;\vdash\; x \leq \bigvee A$.

These definitions are equivalent under certain circumstances. Specifically:

• In predicative mathematics with classical logic, one can prove that every preorder has a unique positivity predicate, which must match Definition .

• In impredicative constructive mathematics, one can prove that if a preorder admits a positivity predicate, then it is given by Definition . However, in general, the predicate defined in Definition is not a positivity predicate in the sense of Definition .

• In classical mathematics (with classical logic and impredicativity), all of the definitions are equivalent.

## Examples

Every power set has a positivity predicate: $x$ is positive iff $x$ is inhabited. (Of course, there are few power sets in predicative mathematics, but often it is enough to think of the power set as a proper class.)

The positive predicate on a locale plays a role in the definition of an overt space. Locale theory is often considered constructively but impredicatively; in predicative constructive mathematics, a positivity predicate is used in the corresponding theory of formal topology.

In impredicative constructive mathematics, a sufficient condition for a complete poset to possess a positivity predicate is that any element is a join of positive elements. To show this, it suffices to prove that for any element $a$, it holds that $a = \bigvee \{ a \;|\; \lozenge{a} \}$ (that is, $a = \bigvee \{ b \;|\; b = a \;\wedge\; \lozenge{b} \}$). The remaining properties can then be easily verified. By assumption, $a = \sup B$ for some set $B$ containing only positive elements. For any $b \in B$, it holds that $b \leq a$, thus that $a$ is positive and thus that $b \leq \bigvee \{ a \;|\; \lozenge{a} \}$. Therefore $\sup B \leq \bigvee \{ a \;|\; \lozenge{a} \}$ holds as well. The other inequality is trivial.

Every atom of $L$ is positive, and indeed an atom is precisely a minimal positive element.

## Properties

Although classically trivial, a key property of positivity in the constructive context is this:

$\bigvee A = \bigvee A^+ ,$

where $A^+$ is the set of positive elements of $A$.

A special case is

$a = \bigvee \{a\}^+ = \bigvee \{ a | \lozenge{a} \}$

for any element $a$.

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